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+Good morning Guix developers,
+
+C-Lightning is one of the earliest living implementations of the Lightning
+Network protocol.
+I am one of the developers of this implementation.
+
+I tested this as follows:
+
+* Extracted the package `c-lightning` into a `c-lightning.scm` file.
+* Ran `guix build --rounds=3D4 -f c-lightning.scm` on an X86-64 server to
+ check for reproducability issues.
+* Ran the compiled `lightningd` with `lightningd --version`,
+ `lightningd --help`, and the developer-secret undocumented
+ `lightningd --test-daemons-only` and checked they work correctly.
+* Ran the compiled `lightningd` with `lightningd --proxy=3D127.0.0.1:9050
+ --bind-addr=3D127.0.0.1:9735 --addr=3Dstatictor:127.0.0.1:9051
+ --always-use-proxy=3Dtrue` on a server with Bitcoin and Tor installed,
+ and checked that it indeed created an LN wallet and started operating
+ the node.
+ * This also tests the SQLITE database backend and that the sub-daemons
+ are accessible and runnable.
+* From an existing Lightning Network node, did a `lightning-cli connect`
+ to the new node running on the above command, and confirmed that the
+ above new node was connected to, and that it started downloading the
+ gossip map (the first thing every new node does when it initially gets
+ connected to the network).
+* On a separate X86-64 machine with the same Guix commit version, copied
+ the `c-lightning.scm` file and reran `guix build --rounds=3D4 -f
+ c-lightning.scm` as well.
+* Checked that the same `/gnu/store` path was produced on the separate
+ machine as on the first test server.
+* Checked that this command produced the exact same text on both computers:
+ `find ${GNU_STORE_PATH} -type f | sort | xargs -n1 sha256sum`.
+* Extracted the package `c-lightning-postgresql` into a
+ `c-lightning-postgresql.scm` file.
+* Ran `guix build --rounds=3D4 -f c-lightning-postgresql.scm` on a X86-64
+ server to check for reproducibility issues.
+* Chekced that `strings ${GNU_STORE_PATH}/bin/lightningd` for the
+ `c-lightning-postgresql` had references to `PQ*` functions, and that
+ the `c-lightning` version had none, meaning that `c-lightning-postgresql`
+ indeed included PostgreSQL support.
+
+Thus, PostgreSQL support is not fully tested yet, but I believe the
+produced binaries will work correctly as a C-Lightning instance.
+Therefore I would like to submit this patch for inclusion into Guix.
+
+Some notes:
+
+* C-Lightning includes an extensive suite of tests, but these require
+ several additional python packages, some of which (e.g.
+ `python-bitcoinlib`) are not yet in Guix.
+ The tests are extensive and *very long*, running the entire test
+ suite can take an hour or more depending on exact settings.
+* I took advantage of the functional nature of Guix and disabled the
+ relative-path `BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR`, making it an absolute path, as
+ it also incidentally solves the issue of "upgrading C-lightning may
+ cause strange problems in a running instance".
+ See patch for more details.
+* Our `configure` and `Makefile` are weird and I should probably go
+ fix those upstream.
+
+Regards,
+ZmnSCPxj
+
+From 490aa608765228fbb6bb64b9fa679bb4c8145001 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
+From: ZmnSCPxj jxPCSnmZ <ZmnSCPxj@protonmail.com>
+Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 11:53:35 +0000
+Subject: [PATCH] gnu: Add c-lightning.
+
+* gnu/packages/finance.scm (c-lightning, c-lightning-postgresql): New varia=
+bles.
+---
+ gnu/packages/finance.scm | 153 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ 1 file changed, 153 insertions(+)
+
+diff --git a/gnu/packages/finance.scm b/gnu/packages/finance.scm
+index e6df40c168..4b565ddfeb 100644
+--- a/gnu/packages/finance.scm
++++ b/gnu/packages/finance.scm
+@@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
+ ;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020 Vinicius Monego <monego@posteo.net>
+ ;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020 Carlo Holl <carloholl@gmail.com>
+ ;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020 Giacomo Leidi <goodoldpaul@autistici.org>
++;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2021 ZmnSCPxj jxPCSnmZ <ZmnSCPxj@protonmail.com>
+ ;;;
+ ;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
+ ;;;
+@@ -57,6 +58,7 @@
+ #:use-module (gnu packages aidc)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages autotools)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages base)
++ #:use-module (gnu packages bash)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages boost)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages check)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages compression)
+@@ -99,6 +101,7 @@
+ #:use-module (gnu packages qt)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages readline)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages sphinx)
++ #:use-module (gnu packages sqlite)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages texinfo)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages textutils)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages time)
+@@ -1676,3 +1679,152 @@ Interface (UI) for the hledger accounting system. =
+It can be used as a
+ local, single-user UI, or as a multi-user UI for viewing, adding, and
+ editing on the Web.")
+ (license license:gpl3)))
++
++(define-public c-lightning
++ (package
++ (name "c-lightning")
++ (version "0.9.3")
++ (source
++ (origin
++ (method url-fetch)
++ (uri (string-append
++ "https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/releases/down=
+load/"
++ "v" version "/clightning-v" version ".zip"))
++ (sha256
++ (base32 "1chqzxcqpr49vbayrw4213lznmyw4lcghcdh6afxbk4bxlhkjmml"))=
+))
++ (build-system gnu-build-system)
++ (native-inputs
++ `(("autoconf" ,autoconf)
++ ("automake" ,automake)
++ ("bash" ,bash)
++ ("libtool" ,libtool)
++ ("pkg-config" ,pkg-config)
++ ("python" ,python)
++ ("python-mako" ,python-mako)
++ ("sed" ,sed)
++ ("unzip" ,unzip)
++ ("which" ,which)))
++ (inputs
++ `(("gmp" ,gmp)
++ ("sqlite" ,sqlite)
++ ("zlib" ,zlib)))
++ (arguments
++ ;; Tests exist, but need a lot of Python packages (some not availabl=
+e
++ ;; on Guix) and they are incompatible with our BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR ha=
+ck.
++ `(#:tests? #f
++ #:phases
++ (modify-phases %standard-phases
++ (add-before 'configure 'patch-makefile
++ (lambda _
++ (substitute* "Makefile"
++ ;; The C-lightning Makefile uses the PYTHONPATH
++ ;; variable, which causes Guix builds to fail
++ ;; since the environment variable is masked by
++ ;; the Makefile variable.
++ ;; Insert the contents of the variable into the
++ ;; Makefile.
++ (("^PYTHONPATH=3D")
++ (string-append
++ "PYTHONPATH=3D"
++ (getenv "PYTHONPATH")
++ ":"))
++ ;; C-lightning will spawn a number of other
++ ;; processes from binaries installed in its
++ ;; libexecdir.
++ ;; It normally uses relative paths so that
++ ;; users can move around the installation
++ ;; location.
++ ;; However, it does have the drawback that if
++ ;; the installation location is overwritten
++ ;; with a newer version while an existing
++ ;; instance is still running, any new
++ ;; sub-processes launched will be the new
++ ;; version, which is likely incompatible with
++ ;; the running instance.
++ ;; Since Guix would not allow the store
++ ;; directory to be moved anyway, we use an
++ ;; absolute path instead in the below
++ ;; substitution.
++ ;; With Guix and an absolute path, even if a
++ ;; running instance was launched from a
++ ;; profile and that profile is upgraded to a
++ ;; newer version, the running instance will
++ ;; refer to the absolute store directory
++ ;; containing binaries of the running version.
++ (("BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR=3D.*$")
++ "BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR=3D'\"'\"$(pkglibexecdir)\"'\"'\n"))))
++ ;; C-lightning configure is unusual, it does not understand
++ ;; the standard parameters Guix passes in, so, provide those
++ ;; by env variables.
++ (replace 'configure
++ (lambda* (#:key outputs inputs (configure-flags '())
++ #:allow-other-keys)
++ (let* ((bash (string-append (assoc-ref inputs "bash") "/b=
+in/bash"))
++ (python (assoc-ref inputs "python"))
++ (prefix (assoc-ref outputs "out"))
++ (flags (cons*
++ "CC=3Dgcc"
++ (string-append "--prefix=3D" prefix)
++ configure-flags)))
++ (setenv "PYTHON" (string-append python "/bin/python3"))
++ (setenv "CONFIG_SHELL" bash)
++ (setenv "SHELL" bash)
++ (format #t "build directory: ~s~%" (getcwd))
++ (format #t "configure flags: ~s~%" flags)
++ (apply invoke bash
++ "./configure"
++ flags))))
++ ;; Rather than call the configure script of its external
++ ;; libraries from its own configure script, the external
++ ;; configure are created and called at build time.
++ ;; Unfortunately, it is a single Makefile stanza which
++ ;; does the autoreconf, configure, and make.
++ ;; This means we cannot "cut" through here by creating
++ ;; the external configure before this step (the Makefile
++ ;; stanza will recreate and overwrite the external
++ ;; configure), we have to modify the autogen.sh scripts
++ ;; of the external libraries instead so that they
++ ;; patch the shebangs after autoreconf.
++ (add-before 'build 'fix-autoreconf
++ (lambda _
++ (substitute* "external/libsodium/autogen.sh"
++ (("exec autoreconf(.*)$" exec-autoreconf flags)
++ (string-append
++ "autoreconf" flags
++ "sed 's:/bin/sh:" (getenv "SHELL") ":g' < configure > c=
+onfigure.tmp\n"
++ "mv configure.tmp configure\n"
++ "chmod +x configure\n"
++ "exit 0\n")))
++ (substitute* "external/libwally-core/tools/autogen.sh"
++ (("autoreconf(.*)$" autoreconf)
++ (string-append
++ autoreconf
++ "sed 's:/bin/sh:" (getenv "SHELL") ":g' < configure > c=
+onfigure.tmp\n"
++ "mv configure.tmp configure\n"
++ "chmod +x configure\n"))))))))
++ (home-page "https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning")
++ (synopsis "Lightweight Lightning Network protocol implementation in C"=
+)
++ (description
++ "c-lightning is a lightweight, highly customizable, and standard
++compliant implementation of the Lightning Network protocol.")
++ (license license:expat)))
++
++(define-public c-lightning-postgresql
++ (package
++ (inherit c-lightning)
++ (name "c-lightning-postgresql")
++ (inputs
++ `(("postgresql" ,postgresql)
++ ;; C-Lightning requires SQLITE3 as of 0.9.3, and will
++ ;; fail to build if it is not found.
++ ;; (The configure script will allow PostgreSQL without
++ ;; SQLITE3 but some build tool of C-Lightning fails if
++ ;; SQLITE3 is not found.)
++ ,@(package-inputs c-lightning)))
++ (description
++ "c-lightning is a lightweight, highly customizable, and standard
++compliant implementation of the Lightning Network protocol.
++
++This package includes support for using a PostgreSQL database to back
++your node; you will need to set up the PostgreSQL separately and pass
++in its details using an appropriate flag setting.")))
+--
+2.30.1
+
+
+
+
+
+
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+New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to <code>guix-patches@gnu.org</code>.
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+Subject: [PATCH] gnu: Add c-lightning.
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+Good morning Guix developers,
+
+C-Lightning is one of the earliest living implementations of the Lightning
+Network protocol.
+I am one of the developers of this implementation.
+
+I tested this as follows:
+
+* Extracted the package `c-lightning` into a `c-lightning.scm` file.
+* Ran `guix build --rounds=3D4 -f c-lightning.scm` on an X86-64 server to
+ check for reproducability issues.
+* Ran the compiled `lightningd` with `lightningd --version`,
+ `lightningd --help`, and the developer-secret undocumented
+ `lightningd --test-daemons-only` and checked they work correctly.
+* Ran the compiled `lightningd` with `lightningd --proxy=3D127.0.0.1:9050
+ --bind-addr=3D127.0.0.1:9735 --addr=3Dstatictor:127.0.0.1:9051
+ --always-use-proxy=3Dtrue` on a server with Bitcoin and Tor installed,
+ and checked that it indeed created an LN wallet and started operating
+ the node.
+ * This also tests the SQLITE database backend and that the sub-daemons
+ are accessible and runnable.
+* From an existing Lightning Network node, did a `lightning-cli connect`
+ to the new node running on the above command, and confirmed that the
+ above new node was connected to, and that it started downloading the
+ gossip map (the first thing every new node does when it initially gets
+ connected to the network).
+* On a separate X86-64 machine with the same Guix commit version, copied
+ the `c-lightning.scm` file and reran `guix build --rounds=3D4 -f
+ c-lightning.scm` as well.
+* Checked that the same `/gnu/store` path was produced on the separate
+ machine as on the first test server.
+* Checked that this command produced the exact same text on both computers:
+ `find ${GNU_STORE_PATH} -type f | sort | xargs -n1 sha256sum`.
+* Extracted the package `c-lightning-postgresql` into a
+ `c-lightning-postgresql.scm` file.
+* Ran `guix build --rounds=3D4 -f c-lightning-postgresql.scm` on a X86-64
+ server to check for reproducibility issues.
+* Chekced that `strings ${GNU_STORE_PATH}/bin/lightningd` for the
+ `c-lightning-postgresql` had references to `PQ*` functions, and that
+ the `c-lightning` version had none, meaning that `c-lightning-postgresql`
+ indeed included PostgreSQL support.
+
+Thus, PostgreSQL support is not fully tested yet, but I believe the
+produced binaries will work correctly as a C-Lightning instance.
+Therefore I would like to submit this patch for inclusion into Guix.
+
+Some notes:
+
+* C-Lightning includes an extensive suite of tests, but these require
+ several additional python packages, some of which (e.g.
+ `python-bitcoinlib`) are not yet in Guix.
+ The tests are extensive and *very long*, running the entire test
+ suite can take an hour or more depending on exact settings.
+* I took advantage of the functional nature of Guix and disabled the
+ relative-path `BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR`, making it an absolute path, as
+ it also incidentally solves the issue of "upgrading C-lightning may
+ cause strange problems in a running instance".
+ See patch for more details.
+* Our `configure` and `Makefile` are weird and I should probably go
+ fix those upstream.
+
+Regards,
+ZmnSCPxj
+
+From 490aa608765228fbb6bb64b9fa679bb4c8145001 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
+From: ZmnSCPxj jxPCSnmZ <ZmnSCPxj@protonmail.com>
+Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 11:53:35 +0000
+Subject: [PATCH] gnu: Add c-lightning.
+
+* gnu/packages/finance.scm (c-lightning, c-lightning-postgresql): New varia=
+bles.
+---
+ gnu/packages/finance.scm | 153 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ 1 file changed, 153 insertions(+)
+
+diff --git a/gnu/packages/finance.scm b/gnu/packages/finance.scm
+index e6df40c168..4b565ddfeb 100644
+--- a/gnu/packages/finance.scm
++++ b/gnu/packages/finance.scm
+@@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
+ ;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020 Vinicius Monego <monego@posteo.net>
+ ;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020 Carlo Holl <carloholl@gmail.com>
+ ;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020 Giacomo Leidi <goodoldpaul@autistici.org>
++;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2021 ZmnSCPxj jxPCSnmZ <ZmnSCPxj@protonmail.com>
+ ;;;
+ ;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
+ ;;;
+@@ -57,6 +58,7 @@
+ #:use-module (gnu packages aidc)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages autotools)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages base)
++ #:use-module (gnu packages bash)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages boost)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages check)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages compression)
+@@ -99,6 +101,7 @@
+ #:use-module (gnu packages qt)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages readline)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages sphinx)
++ #:use-module (gnu packages sqlite)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages texinfo)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages textutils)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages time)
+@@ -1676,3 +1679,152 @@ Interface (UI) for the hledger accounting system. =
+It can be used as a
+ local, single-user UI, or as a multi-user UI for viewing, adding, and
+ editing on the Web.")
+ (license license:gpl3)))
++
++(define-public c-lightning
++ (package
++ (name "c-lightning")
++ (version "0.9.3")
++ (source
++ (origin
++ (method url-fetch)
++ (uri (string-append
++ "https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/releases/down=
+load/"
++ "v" version "/clightning-v" version ".zip"))
++ (sha256
++ (base32 "1chqzxcqpr49vbayrw4213lznmyw4lcghcdh6afxbk4bxlhkjmml"))=
+))
++ (build-system gnu-build-system)
++ (native-inputs
++ `(("autoconf" ,autoconf)
++ ("automake" ,automake)
++ ("bash" ,bash)
++ ("libtool" ,libtool)
++ ("pkg-config" ,pkg-config)
++ ("python" ,python)
++ ("python-mako" ,python-mako)
++ ("sed" ,sed)
++ ("unzip" ,unzip)
++ ("which" ,which)))
++ (inputs
++ `(("gmp" ,gmp)
++ ("sqlite" ,sqlite)
++ ("zlib" ,zlib)))
++ (arguments
++ ;; Tests exist, but need a lot of Python packages (some not availabl=
+e
++ ;; on Guix) and they are incompatible with our BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR ha=
+ck.
++ `(#:tests? #f
++ #:phases
++ (modify-phases %standard-phases
++ (add-before 'configure 'patch-makefile
++ (lambda _
++ (substitute* "Makefile"
++ ;; The C-lightning Makefile uses the PYTHONPATH
++ ;; variable, which causes Guix builds to fail
++ ;; since the environment variable is masked by
++ ;; the Makefile variable.
++ ;; Insert the contents of the variable into the
++ ;; Makefile.
++ (("^PYTHONPATH=3D")
++ (string-append
++ "PYTHONPATH=3D"
++ (getenv "PYTHONPATH")
++ ":"))
++ ;; C-lightning will spawn a number of other
++ ;; processes from binaries installed in its
++ ;; libexecdir.
++ ;; It normally uses relative paths so that
++ ;; users can move around the installation
++ ;; location.
++ ;; However, it does have the drawback that if
++ ;; the installation location is overwritten
++ ;; with a newer version while an existing
++ ;; instance is still running, any new
++ ;; sub-processes launched will be the new
++ ;; version, which is likely incompatible with
++ ;; the running instance.
++ ;; Since Guix would not allow the store
++ ;; directory to be moved anyway, we use an
++ ;; absolute path instead in the below
++ ;; substitution.
++ ;; With Guix and an absolute path, even if a
++ ;; running instance was launched from a
++ ;; profile and that profile is upgraded to a
++ ;; newer version, the running instance will
++ ;; refer to the absolute store directory
++ ;; containing binaries of the running version.
++ (("BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR=3D.*$")
++ "BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR=3D'\"'\"$(pkglibexecdir)\"'\"'\n"))))
++ ;; C-lightning configure is unusual, it does not understand
++ ;; the standard parameters Guix passes in, so, provide those
++ ;; by env variables.
++ (replace 'configure
++ (lambda* (#:key outputs inputs (configure-flags '())
++ #:allow-other-keys)
++ (let* ((bash (string-append (assoc-ref inputs "bash") "/b=
+in/bash"))
++ (python (assoc-ref inputs "python"))
++ (prefix (assoc-ref outputs "out"))
++ (flags (cons*
++ "CC=3Dgcc"
++ (string-append "--prefix=3D" prefix)
++ configure-flags)))
++ (setenv "PYTHON" (string-append python "/bin/python3"))
++ (setenv "CONFIG_SHELL" bash)
++ (setenv "SHELL" bash)
++ (format #t "build directory: ~s~%" (getcwd))
++ (format #t "configure flags: ~s~%" flags)
++ (apply invoke bash
++ "./configure"
++ flags))))
++ ;; Rather than call the configure script of its external
++ ;; libraries from its own configure script, the external
++ ;; configure are created and called at build time.
++ ;; Unfortunately, it is a single Makefile stanza which
++ ;; does the autoreconf, configure, and make.
++ ;; This means we cannot "cut" through here by creating
++ ;; the external configure before this step (the Makefile
++ ;; stanza will recreate and overwrite the external
++ ;; configure), we have to modify the autogen.sh scripts
++ ;; of the external libraries instead so that they
++ ;; patch the shebangs after autoreconf.
++ (add-before 'build 'fix-autoreconf
++ (lambda _
++ (substitute* "external/libsodium/autogen.sh"
++ (("exec autoreconf(.*)$" exec-autoreconf flags)
++ (string-append
++ "autoreconf" flags
++ "sed 's:/bin/sh:" (getenv "SHELL") ":g' < configure > c=
+onfigure.tmp\n"
++ "mv configure.tmp configure\n"
++ "chmod +x configure\n"
++ "exit 0\n")))
++ (substitute* "external/libwally-core/tools/autogen.sh"
++ (("autoreconf(.*)$" autoreconf)
++ (string-append
++ autoreconf
++ "sed 's:/bin/sh:" (getenv "SHELL") ":g' < configure > c=
+onfigure.tmp\n"
++ "mv configure.tmp configure\n"
++ "chmod +x configure\n"))))))))
++ (home-page "https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning")
++ (synopsis "Lightweight Lightning Network protocol implementation in C"=
+)
++ (description
++ "c-lightning is a lightweight, highly customizable, and standard
++compliant implementation of the Lightning Network protocol.")
++ (license license:expat)))
++
++(define-public c-lightning-postgresql
++ (package
++ (inherit c-lightning)
++ (name "c-lightning-postgresql")
++ (inputs
++ `(("postgresql" ,postgresql)
++ ;; C-Lightning requires SQLITE3 as of 0.9.3, and will
++ ;; fail to build if it is not found.
++ ;; (The configure script will allow PostgreSQL without
++ ;; SQLITE3 but some build tool of C-Lightning fails if
++ ;; SQLITE3 is not found.)
++ ,@(package-inputs c-lightning)))
++ (description
++ "c-lightning is a lightweight, highly customizable, and standard
++compliant implementation of the Lightning Network protocol.
++
++This package includes support for using a PostgreSQL database to back
++your node; you will need to set up the PostgreSQL separately and pass
++in its details using an appropriate flag setting.")))
+--
+2.30.1
+
+
+
+
+
+
+<!-- request_addr: guix-patches@gnu.org -->
+<!-- time:1615886042 -->
+<strong>Information forwarded</strong>
+to <code>guix-patches@gnu.org</code>:<br>
+<code>bug#47187</code>; Package <code>guix-patches</code>.
+
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+Hello!
+
+Thanks for the patch!
+
+I built it and it was successful, however, few comments:
+
+The various hacks in the recipe to get a working build seem troublesome
+maintenance-wise, is it possible you think since you are a developer
+that you make the build scripts a bit more standard in the project?
+
+I see there's some vendored libraries: gheap, jsmn, libbacktrace,
+libsodium, libwally-core ; Is it possible to unvendor those and create
+separate packages for each of them? Or is there a requirement of strict
+behavior here, either way, you could also create separate packages for
+each of them even if those are specific to c-lightning. It would make
+the main recipe cleaner, since as far as I can see it's also why the
+build system is so stubborn to GNU Guix? That it also attempts to build
+vendored libraries?
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+Hello!
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+Thanks for the patch!
+
+I built it and it was successful, however, few comments:
+
+The various hacks in the recipe to get a working build seem troublesome
+maintenance-wise, is it possible you think since you are a developer
+that you make the build scripts a bit more standard in the project?
+
+I see there's some vendored libraries: gheap, jsmn, libbacktrace,
+libsodium, libwally-core ; Is it possible to unvendor those and create
+separate packages for each of them? Or is there a requirement of strict
+behavior here, either way, you could also create separate packages for
+each of them even if those are specific to c-lightning. It would make
+the main recipe cleaner, since as far as I can see it's also why the
+build system is so stubborn to GNU Guix? That it also attempts to build
+vendored libraries?
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+I can help packaging the necessary Python dependencies, also we have a
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+Good morning Leo,
+
+> The various hacks in the recipe to get a working build seem troublesome
+> maintenance-wise, is it possible you think since you are a developer
+> that you make the build scripts a bit more standard in the project?
+
+Already working on that, but 0.10.0 will release soon and I doubt my change=
+s will make it by then, so Guix might get c-lightning to 0.10.1 or later if=
+ we wait for it.
+
+> I see there's some vendored libraries: gheap, jsmn, libbacktrace,
+> libsodium, libwally-core ; Is it possible to unvendor those and create
+> separate packages for each of them? Or is there a requirement of strict
+> behavior here, either way, you could also create separate packages for
+> each of them even if those are specific to c-lightning. It would make
+> the main recipe cleaner, since as far as I can see it's also why the
+> build system is so stubborn to GNU Guix? That it also attempts to build
+> vendored libraries?
+
+I think it is more the custom `configure` script.
+The custom `configure` script also compiles a ***C*** program that then gen=
+erates the configuration for the `ccan` library of the project, meaning cro=
+ss-compilation requires special work for C-Lightning.
+And `configure` does not call `configure` of the included libraries as well=
+.
+
+Yes, it is true that there is something of a requirement of a strict behavi=
+or here, I suppose it is possible to use `git-fetch` instead of `url-fetch`=
+ for our external libraries.
+How do I generate `guix hash` for `git-fetch`ed `source`s?
+However it also means that every release of C-Lightning I have to go double=
+-check what git commit to use for each library (though `jsmn` and `libbackt=
+race` at least seem very stable).
+
+But it looks to me that unvendoring will require more extensive patching of=
+ the `Makefile` and an even larger maintenance burden on Guix side?
+
+`libwally-core` itself depends on another library `libsecp256k1`, so I supp=
+ose it must transitively be unvendored as well.
+
+> Additionally, please do enable the test suite it's really valuable in
+> GNU Guix.
+
+The test suite is fairly large and can take a significant amount of time to=
+ run in full.
+
+In addition, part of the test includes checks which take advantage of `BINT=
+OPKGLIBEXECDIR` relative path we normally use, which I want to disable for =
+Guix at least since the relative path only has an advantage if the user wan=
+ts to move the installation after-the-fact to a different location (and on =
+Guix the "installation" path cannot be moved anyway).
+Using an absolute `BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR` gives an advantage as mentioned in t=
+he comments that a profile being upgraded from one version of C-Lightning t=
+o another does not cause problems for daemons currently running off the pro=
+file.
+The test can be disabled (but not easily), I suppose.
+
+> I can help packaging the necessary Python dependencies, also we have a
+> Python importer, e.g. "$ guix import pypi -r <pkg>" to help us go
+> faster at it.
+
+Please do, I am not very familiar with any Python infrastructure and am pri=
+marily a C programmer here, I just barely hack together some kind of test i=
+n Python.
+
+
+Regards,
+ZmnSCPxj
+
+
+
+
+
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+Good morning Leo,
+
+> The various hacks in the recipe to get a working build seem troublesome
+> maintenance-wise, is it possible you think since you are a developer
+> that you make the build scripts a bit more standard in the project?
+
+Already working on that, but 0.10.0 will release soon and I doubt my change=
+s will make it by then, so Guix might get c-lightning to 0.10.1 or later if=
+ we wait for it.
+
+> I see there's some vendored libraries: gheap, jsmn, libbacktrace,
+> libsodium, libwally-core ; Is it possible to unvendor those and create
+> separate packages for each of them? Or is there a requirement of strict
+> behavior here, either way, you could also create separate packages for
+> each of them even if those are specific to c-lightning. It would make
+> the main recipe cleaner, since as far as I can see it's also why the
+> build system is so stubborn to GNU Guix? That it also attempts to build
+> vendored libraries?
+
+I think it is more the custom `configure` script.
+The custom `configure` script also compiles a ***C*** program that then gen=
+erates the configuration for the `ccan` library of the project, meaning cro=
+ss-compilation requires special work for C-Lightning.
+And `configure` does not call `configure` of the included libraries as well=
+.
+
+Yes, it is true that there is something of a requirement of a strict behavi=
+or here, I suppose it is possible to use `git-fetch` instead of `url-fetch`=
+ for our external libraries.
+How do I generate `guix hash` for `git-fetch`ed `source`s?
+However it also means that every release of C-Lightning I have to go double=
+-check what git commit to use for each library (though `jsmn` and `libbackt=
+race` at least seem very stable).
+
+But it looks to me that unvendoring will require more extensive patching of=
+ the `Makefile` and an even larger maintenance burden on Guix side?
+
+`libwally-core` itself depends on another library `libsecp256k1`, so I supp=
+ose it must transitively be unvendored as well.
+
+> Additionally, please do enable the test suite it's really valuable in
+> GNU Guix.
+
+The test suite is fairly large and can take a significant amount of time to=
+ run in full.
+
+In addition, part of the test includes checks which take advantage of `BINT=
+OPKGLIBEXECDIR` relative path we normally use, which I want to disable for =
+Guix at least since the relative path only has an advantage if the user wan=
+ts to move the installation after-the-fact to a different location (and on =
+Guix the "installation" path cannot be moved anyway).
+Using an absolute `BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR` gives an advantage as mentioned in t=
+he comments that a profile being upgraded from one version of C-Lightning t=
+o another does not cause problems for daemons currently running off the pro=
+file.
+The test can be disabled (but not easily), I suppose.
+
+> I can help packaging the necessary Python dependencies, also we have a
+> Python importer, e.g. "$ guix import pypi -r <pkg>" to help us go
+> faster at it.
+
+Please do, I am not very familiar with any Python infrastructure and am pri=
+marily a C programmer here, I just barely hack together some kind of test i=
+n Python.
+
+
+Regards,
+ZmnSCPxj
+
+
+
+
+
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+On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 11:27 +0000, ZmnSCPxj wrote:
+> Already working on that, but 0.10.0 will release soon and I doubt my
+> changes will make it by then, so Guix might get c-lightning to 0.10.1
+> or later if we wait for it.
+
+Awesome!
+
+> Yes, it is true that there is something of a requirement of a strict
+> behavior here, I suppose it is possible to use `git-fetch` instead of
+> `url-fetch` for our external libraries.
+
+Yes you can use git-fetch, to make sure we are on the same page, are
+you speaking of strict behavior requirements like for Bitcoin Core's
+consensus code?
+
+> How do I generate `guix hash` for `git-fetch`ed `source`s?
+
+Actually what I do is put a wrong hash in and then copy the "actual
+hash" from the error. I havent found another way but this definitely
+feels subpar and prevents much verification before putting in the hash,
+better suggestions welcome.
+
+> However it also means that every release of C-Lightning I have to go
+> double-check what git commit to use for each library (though `jsmn`
+> and `libbacktrace` at least seem very stable).
+>=20
+> But it looks to me that unvendoring will require more extensive
+> patching of the `Makefile` and an even larger maintenance burden on
+> Guix side?
+
+Unvendoring is more or less a policy because we must be able to audit
+each piece of software separately for freedom issues (licenses,
+violations to the GNU FSDG), and it eases work for security-patching
+also.
+
+> `libwally-core` itself depends on another library `libsecp256k1`, so
+> I suppose it must transitively be unvendored as well.
+
+Probably, we already have a libsecp256k1 specially for Bitcoin Core.
+
+> The test suite is fairly large and can take a significant amount of
+> time to run in full.
+
+That's fine.
+
+> In addition, part of the test includes checks which take advantage of
+> `BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR` relative path we normally use, which I want to
+> disable for Guix at least since the relative path only has an
+> advantage if the user wants to move the installation after-the-fact
+> to a different location (and on Guix the "installation" path cannot
+> be moved anyway).
+> Using an absolute `BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR` gives an advantage as
+> mentioned in the comments that a profile being upgraded from one
+> version of C-Lightning to another does not cause problems for daemons
+> currently running off the profile.
+> The test can be disabled (but not easily), I suppose.
+
+Problematic or unrealistically expensive tests can be disabled yes.
+
+> Please do, I am not very familiar with any Python infrastructure and
+> am primarily a C programmer here, I just barely hack together some
+> kind of test in Python.
+
+If you can list the Python dependencies and their version I can look at
+packaging them.
+
+> Regards,
+> ZmnSCPxj
+
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+On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 11:27 +0000, ZmnSCPxj wrote:
+> Already working on that, but 0.10.0 will release soon and I doubt my
+> changes will make it by then, so Guix might get c-lightning to 0.10.1
+> or later if we wait for it.
+
+Awesome!
+
+> Yes, it is true that there is something of a requirement of a strict
+> behavior here, I suppose it is possible to use `git-fetch` instead of
+> `url-fetch` for our external libraries.
+
+Yes you can use git-fetch, to make sure we are on the same page, are
+you speaking of strict behavior requirements like for Bitcoin Core's
+consensus code?
+
+> How do I generate `guix hash` for `git-fetch`ed `source`s?
+
+Actually what I do is put a wrong hash in and then copy the "actual
+hash" from the error. I havent found another way but this definitely
+feels subpar and prevents much verification before putting in the hash,
+better suggestions welcome.
+
+> However it also means that every release of C-Lightning I have to go
+> double-check what git commit to use for each library (though `jsmn`
+> and `libbacktrace` at least seem very stable).
+>=20
+> But it looks to me that unvendoring will require more extensive
+> patching of the `Makefile` and an even larger maintenance burden on
+> Guix side?
+
+Unvendoring is more or less a policy because we must be able to audit
+each piece of software separately for freedom issues (licenses,
+violations to the GNU FSDG), and it eases work for security-patching
+also.
+
+> `libwally-core` itself depends on another library `libsecp256k1`, so
+> I suppose it must transitively be unvendored as well.
+
+Probably, we already have a libsecp256k1 specially for Bitcoin Core.
+
+> The test suite is fairly large and can take a significant amount of
+> time to run in full.
+
+That's fine.
+
+> In addition, part of the test includes checks which take advantage of
+> `BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR` relative path we normally use, which I want to
+> disable for Guix at least since the relative path only has an
+> advantage if the user wants to move the installation after-the-fact
+> to a different location (and on Guix the "installation" path cannot
+> be moved anyway).
+> Using an absolute `BINTOPKGLIBEXECDIR` gives an advantage as
+> mentioned in the comments that a profile being upgraded from one
+> version of C-Lightning to another does not cause problems for daemons
+> currently running off the profile.
+> The test can be disabled (but not easily), I suppose.
+
+Problematic or unrealistically expensive tests can be disabled yes.
+
+> Please do, I am not very familiar with any Python infrastructure and
+> am primarily a C programmer here, I just barely hack together some
+> kind of test in Python.
+
+If you can list the Python dependencies and their version I can look at
+packaging them.
+
+> Regards,
+> ZmnSCPxj
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+Good morning Leo,
+
+> > Yes, it is true that there is something of a requirement of a strict
+> > behavior here, I suppose it is possible to use `git-fetch` instead of
+> > `url-fetch` for our external libraries.
+>
+> Yes you can use git-fetch, to make sure we are on the same page, are
+> you speaking of strict behavior requirements like for Bitcoin Core's
+> consensus code?
+
+Well we need to produce signatures and transactions that pass Bitcoin Core =
+signature validation at least, so it is best to use a version of `libsecp25=
+6k1` (which produces signatures) that we know works, as well as `libwally-c=
+ore` (which produces transactions).
+I would personally use the `libsecp256k1` version that `libwally-core` vend=
+ors in as well, since there may be specific interactions between `libwally-=
+core` and `libsecp256k1` that may be different if we use the Bitcoin Core v=
+ersion of `libsecp256k1`.
+
+For `libsodium`, at least the hashing has to work correctly, but I think it=
+ is simple enough that strict behavior requirements are not so onerous.
+Indeed, we usually get this from the OS (but we need a later feature than t=
+hat available on some old Ubuntu versions, which is why it got vendored in)=
+, so I should probably "just" add it as an input.
+
+>
+> > How do I generate `guix hash` for `git-fetch`ed `source`s?
+>
+> Actually what I do is put a wrong hash in and then copy the "actual
+> hash" from the error. I havent found another way but this definitely
+> feels subpar and prevents much verification before putting in the hash,
+> better suggestions welcome.
+
+Haha I shall do so as well.
+
+>
+> > However it also means that every release of C-Lightning I have to go
+> > double-check what git commit to use for each library (though `jsmn`
+> > and `libbacktrace` at least seem very stable).
+> > But it looks to me that unvendoring will require more extensive
+> > patching of the `Makefile` and an even larger maintenance burden on
+> > Guix side?
+>
+> Unvendoring is more or less a policy because we must be able to audit
+> each piece of software separately for freedom issues (licenses,
+> violations to the GNU FSDG), and it eases work for security-patching
+> also.
+
+I understand.
+
+This will require a largish amount of work I think.
+
+Would this technique be acceptable?
+
+* `add-before 'configure 'unvendor-externals`
+ * `rm -rf` the vendored externals.
+ * `ln -s` the needed `.h` and `.la`/`.a`/`.so` files from the `inputs` to=
+ the expected paths within the `external/` directory.
+
+?
+
+> > Please do, I am not very familiar with any Python infrastructure and
+> > am primarily a C programmer here, I just barely hack together some
+> > kind of test in Python.
+>
+> If you can list the Python dependencies and their version I can look at
+> packaging them.
+
+We have a `requirements.txt` file which contains this, I duplicate below:
+
+```
+# Dependencies required to build and test c-lightning
+https://github.com/ElementsProject/libwally-core/releases/download/release_=
+0.8.0/wallycore-0.8.0-cp36-cp36m-linux_x86_64.whl; 'linux' in sys_platform =
+and python_version =3D=3D '3.6'
+https://github.com/ElementsProject/libwally-core/releases/download/release_=
+0.8.0/wallycore-0.8.0-cp37-cp37m-linux_x86_64.whl; 'linux' in sys_platform =
+and python_version =3D=3D '3.7'
+https://github.com/ElementsProject/libwally-core/releases/download/release_=
+0.8.0/wallycore-0.8.0-cp37-cp37m-macosx_10_14_x86_64.whl; sys_platform =3D=
+=3D 'darwin' and python_version =3D=3D '3.7'
+mrkd ~=3D 0.1.6
+Mako ~=3D 1.1.3
+
+# Dependencies from pyln-client
+Sphinx ~=3D 3.4.0
+flake8=3D=3D3.7.8
+recommonmark>=3D0.7.*
+sphinx-rtd-theme=3D=3D0.4.2
+sphinxcontrib-websupport=3D=3D1.1.0
+tqdm=3D=3D4.32.2
+
+# Dependencies from pyln-testing
+Flask=3D=3D1.1.*
+cheroot=3D=3D8.5.*
+ephemeral-port-reserve=3D=3D1.1.1
+filelock=3D=3D3.0.*
+flaky ~=3D 3.7.0
+psutil=3D=3D5.7.*
+psycopg2-binary=3D=3D2.8.*
+pytest-rerunfailures=3D=3D9.1.1
+pytest-timeout ~=3D 1.4.2
+pytest-xdist ~=3D 2.2.0
+pytest=3D=3D6.1.*
+python-bitcoinlib=3D=3D0.11.*
+
+# Dependencies from pyln-proto
+base58 ~=3D 2.0.1
+bitstring ~=3D 3.1.6
+coincurve ~=3D 13.0.0
+cryptography ~=3D 3.2
+mypy ~=3D 0.790
+pysocks ~=3D 1.7.1
+
+# Dependencies from pyln-spec
+# None
+```
+
+Incidentally, we also install some Python modules.
+How do I "properly" export the Python modules within Guix?
+
+Regards,
+ZmnSCPxj
+
+
+
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+Subject: Re: [bug#47187] [PATCH] gnu: Add c-lightning.
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+Good morning Leo,
+
+> > Yes, it is true that there is something of a requirement of a strict
+> > behavior here, I suppose it is possible to use `git-fetch` instead of
+> > `url-fetch` for our external libraries.
+>
+> Yes you can use git-fetch, to make sure we are on the same page, are
+> you speaking of strict behavior requirements like for Bitcoin Core's
+> consensus code?
+
+Well we need to produce signatures and transactions that pass Bitcoin Core =
+signature validation at least, so it is best to use a version of `libsecp25=
+6k1` (which produces signatures) that we know works, as well as `libwally-c=
+ore` (which produces transactions).
+I would personally use the `libsecp256k1` version that `libwally-core` vend=
+ors in as well, since there may be specific interactions between `libwally-=
+core` and `libsecp256k1` that may be different if we use the Bitcoin Core v=
+ersion of `libsecp256k1`.
+
+For `libsodium`, at least the hashing has to work correctly, but I think it=
+ is simple enough that strict behavior requirements are not so onerous.
+Indeed, we usually get this from the OS (but we need a later feature than t=
+hat available on some old Ubuntu versions, which is why it got vendored in)=
+, so I should probably "just" add it as an input.
+
+>
+> > How do I generate `guix hash` for `git-fetch`ed `source`s?
+>
+> Actually what I do is put a wrong hash in and then copy the "actual
+> hash" from the error. I havent found another way but this definitely
+> feels subpar and prevents much verification before putting in the hash,
+> better suggestions welcome.
+
+Haha I shall do so as well.
+
+>
+> > However it also means that every release of C-Lightning I have to go
+> > double-check what git commit to use for each library (though `jsmn`
+> > and `libbacktrace` at least seem very stable).
+> > But it looks to me that unvendoring will require more extensive
+> > patching of the `Makefile` and an even larger maintenance burden on
+> > Guix side?
+>
+> Unvendoring is more or less a policy because we must be able to audit
+> each piece of software separately for freedom issues (licenses,
+> violations to the GNU FSDG), and it eases work for security-patching
+> also.
+
+I understand.
+
+This will require a largish amount of work I think.
+
+Would this technique be acceptable?
+
+* `add-before 'configure 'unvendor-externals`
+ * `rm -rf` the vendored externals.
+ * `ln -s` the needed `.h` and `.la`/`.a`/`.so` files from the `inputs` to=
+ the expected paths within the `external/` directory.
+
+?
+
+> > Please do, I am not very familiar with any Python infrastructure and
+> > am primarily a C programmer here, I just barely hack together some
+> > kind of test in Python.
+>
+> If you can list the Python dependencies and their version I can look at
+> packaging them.
+
+We have a `requirements.txt` file which contains this, I duplicate below:
+
+```
+# Dependencies required to build and test c-lightning
+https://github.com/ElementsProject/libwally-core/releases/download/release_=
+0.8.0/wallycore-0.8.0-cp36-cp36m-linux_x86_64.whl; 'linux' in sys_platform =
+and python_version =3D=3D '3.6'
+https://github.com/ElementsProject/libwally-core/releases/download/release_=
+0.8.0/wallycore-0.8.0-cp37-cp37m-linux_x86_64.whl; 'linux' in sys_platform =
+and python_version =3D=3D '3.7'
+https://github.com/ElementsProject/libwally-core/releases/download/release_=
+0.8.0/wallycore-0.8.0-cp37-cp37m-macosx_10_14_x86_64.whl; sys_platform =3D=
+=3D 'darwin' and python_version =3D=3D '3.7'
+mrkd ~=3D 0.1.6
+Mako ~=3D 1.1.3
+
+# Dependencies from pyln-client
+Sphinx ~=3D 3.4.0
+flake8=3D=3D3.7.8
+recommonmark>=3D0.7.*
+sphinx-rtd-theme=3D=3D0.4.2
+sphinxcontrib-websupport=3D=3D1.1.0
+tqdm=3D=3D4.32.2
+
+# Dependencies from pyln-testing
+Flask=3D=3D1.1.*
+cheroot=3D=3D8.5.*
+ephemeral-port-reserve=3D=3D1.1.1
+filelock=3D=3D3.0.*
+flaky ~=3D 3.7.0
+psutil=3D=3D5.7.*
+psycopg2-binary=3D=3D2.8.*
+pytest-rerunfailures=3D=3D9.1.1
+pytest-timeout ~=3D 1.4.2
+pytest-xdist ~=3D 2.2.0
+pytest=3D=3D6.1.*
+python-bitcoinlib=3D=3D0.11.*
+
+# Dependencies from pyln-proto
+base58 ~=3D 2.0.1
+bitstring ~=3D 3.1.6
+coincurve ~=3D 13.0.0
+cryptography ~=3D 3.2
+mypy ~=3D 0.790
+pysocks ~=3D 1.7.1
+
+# Dependencies from pyln-spec
+# None
+```
+
+Incidentally, we also install some Python modules.
+How do I "properly" export the Python modules within Guix?
+
+Regards,
+ZmnSCPxj
+
+
+
+
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+On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 03:42 +0000, ZmnSCPxj wrote:
+> I understand.
+>=20
+> This will require a largish amount of work I think.
+>=20
+> Would this technique be acceptable?
+>=20
+> * `add-before 'configure 'unvendor-externals`
+> * `rm -rf` the vendored externals.
+> * `ln -s` the needed `.h` and `.la`/`.a`/`.so` files from the
+> `inputs` to the expected paths within the `external/` directory.
+>=20
+> ?
+
+Maybe simply add an option like --with-system-libbacktrace etc. in the
+build system? And yes remove externals, I think that you should use a
+snippet in the origin field instead of a phase for that.
+
+>=20
+> We have a `requirements.txt` file which contains this, I duplicate
+> below:
+>=20
+> ```
+> # Dependencies required to build and test c-lightning
+> https://github.com/ElementsProject/libwally-core/releases/download/releas=
+e_0.8.0/wallycore-0.8.0-cp36-cp36m-linux_x86_64.whl; 'linux' in sys_platfor=
+m and python_version =3D=3D
+> '3.6'
+> https://github.com/ElementsProject/libwally-core/releases/download/releas=
+e_0.8.0/wallycore-0.8.0-cp37-cp37m-linux_x86_64.whl; 'linux' in sys_platfor=
+m and python_version =3D=3D
+> '3.7'
+> https://github.com/ElementsProject/libwally-core/releases/download/releas=
+e_0.8.0/wallycore-0.8.0-cp37-cp37m-macosx_10_14_x86_64.whl; sys_platform =
+=3D=3D 'darwin' and python_version =3D=3D
+> '3.7'
+> mrkd ~=3D 0.1.6
+> Mako ~=3D 1.1.3
+>=20
+> # Dependencies from pyln-client
+> Sphinx ~=3D 3.4.0
+> flake8=3D=3D3.7.8
+> recommonmark>=3D0.7.*
+> sphinx-rtd-theme=3D=3D0.4.2
+> sphinxcontrib-websupport=3D=3D1.1.0
+> tqdm=3D=3D4.32.2
+>=20
+> # Dependencies from pyln-testing
+> Flask=3D=3D1.1.*
+> cheroot=3D=3D8.5.*
+> ephemeral-port-reserve=3D=3D1.1.1
+> filelock=3D=3D3.0.*
+> flaky ~=3D 3.7.0
+> psutil=3D=3D5.7.*
+> psycopg2-binary=3D=3D2.8.*
+> pytest-rerunfailures=3D=3D9.1.1
+> pytest-timeout ~=3D 1.4.2
+> pytest-xdist ~=3D 2.2.0
+> pytest=3D=3D6.1.*
+> python-bitcoinlib=3D=3D0.11.*
+>=20
+> # Dependencies from pyln-proto
+> base58 ~=3D 2.0.1
+> bitstring ~=3D 3.1.6
+> coincurve ~=3D 13.0.0
+> cryptography ~=3D 3.2
+> mypy ~=3D 0.790
+> pysocks ~=3D 1.7.1
+>=20
+> # Dependencies from pyln-spec
+> # None
+> ```
+
+Thank you, I am going to go through them.
+
+> Incidentally, we also install some Python modules.
+> How do I "properly" export the Python modules within Guix?
+
+I will ask someone else here but you might have to mix the python-
+build-system in.
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+On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 03:42 +0000, ZmnSCPxj wrote:
+> I understand.
+>=20
+> This will require a largish amount of work I think.
+>=20
+> Would this technique be acceptable?
+>=20
+> * `add-before 'configure 'unvendor-externals`
+> * `rm -rf` the vendored externals.
+> * `ln -s` the needed `.h` and `.la`/`.a`/`.so` files from the
+> `inputs` to the expected paths within the `external/` directory.
+>=20
+> ?
+
+Maybe simply add an option like --with-system-libbacktrace etc. in the
+build system? And yes remove externals, I think that you should use a
+snippet in the origin field instead of a phase for that.
+
+>=20
+> We have a `requirements.txt` file which contains this, I duplicate
+> below:
+>=20
+> ```
+> # Dependencies required to build and test c-lightning
+> https://github.com/ElementsProject/libwally-core/releases/download/releas=
+e_0.8.0/wallycore-0.8.0-cp36-cp36m-linux_x86_64.whl; 'linux' in sys_platfor=
+m and python_version =3D=3D
+> '3.6'
+> https://github.com/ElementsProject/libwally-core/releases/download/releas=
+e_0.8.0/wallycore-0.8.0-cp37-cp37m-linux_x86_64.whl; 'linux' in sys_platfor=
+m and python_version =3D=3D
+> '3.7'
+> https://github.com/ElementsProject/libwally-core/releases/download/releas=
+e_0.8.0/wallycore-0.8.0-cp37-cp37m-macosx_10_14_x86_64.whl; sys_platform =
+=3D=3D 'darwin' and python_version =3D=3D
+> '3.7'
+> mrkd ~=3D 0.1.6
+> Mako ~=3D 1.1.3
+>=20
+> # Dependencies from pyln-client
+> Sphinx ~=3D 3.4.0
+> flake8=3D=3D3.7.8
+> recommonmark>=3D0.7.*
+> sphinx-rtd-theme=3D=3D0.4.2
+> sphinxcontrib-websupport=3D=3D1.1.0
+> tqdm=3D=3D4.32.2
+>=20
+> # Dependencies from pyln-testing
+> Flask=3D=3D1.1.*
+> cheroot=3D=3D8.5.*
+> ephemeral-port-reserve=3D=3D1.1.1
+> filelock=3D=3D3.0.*
+> flaky ~=3D 3.7.0
+> psutil=3D=3D5.7.*
+> psycopg2-binary=3D=3D2.8.*
+> pytest-rerunfailures=3D=3D9.1.1
+> pytest-timeout ~=3D 1.4.2
+> pytest-xdist ~=3D 2.2.0
+> pytest=3D=3D6.1.*
+> python-bitcoinlib=3D=3D0.11.*
+>=20
+> # Dependencies from pyln-proto
+> base58 ~=3D 2.0.1
+> bitstring ~=3D 3.1.6
+> coincurve ~=3D 13.0.0
+> cryptography ~=3D 3.2
+> mypy ~=3D 0.790
+> pysocks ~=3D 1.7.1
+>=20
+> # Dependencies from pyln-spec
+> # None
+> ```
+
+Thank you, I am going to go through them.
+
+> Incidentally, we also install some Python modules.
+> How do I "properly" export the Python modules within Guix?
+
+I will ask someone else here but you might have to mix the python-
+build-system in.
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+Good morning Leo,
+
+> On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 03:42 +0000, ZmnSCPxj wrote:
+>
+> > I understand.
+> > This will require a largish amount of work I think.
+> > Would this technique be acceptable?
+> >
+> > - `add-before 'configure 'unvendor-externals`
+> > - `rm -rf` the vendored externals.
+> > - `ln -s` the needed `.h` and `.la`/`.a`/`.so` files from the
+> > `inputs` to the expected paths within the `external/` directory=
+.
+> >
+> >
+> > ?
+>
+> Maybe simply add an option like --with-system-libbacktrace etc. in the
+> build system?
+
+That would not be simple I think, but let me see what can be done.
+For one, it would be fairly difficult to test it outside of a patched Guix,=
+ as the packages are not usually available in most distros (which is why we=
+ ship the source build with them); e.g. we do not know how to actually find=
+ the "system" libbacktrace as no existing system I know of actually ships t=
+he libbacktrace we use (Debian ships a libbacktrace for android development=
+, and is not the same package as what we use).
+Of the external packages we use, only libsodium is available on Debian (and=
+ older Debian/Ubuntu, as mentioned, have an older version that does not hav=
+e a functionality we require, which is why it is included in our source bui=
+ld as well), so that is the only external we have that we can plausibly say=
+ "we can use the system version", because all the others are not available =
+on most systems.
+
+Also --- we would be somewhat wary of taking the "system" `libsecp256k1`, a=
+s this is very consensus-critical, and we know that our program works with =
+a very specific version, but cannot assure this to be true if the "system" =
+`libsecp256k1` is not the exact version.
+(Note that we cannot take the `libsecp256k1` from `bitcoin-core` because (1=
+) the `bitcoin-core` package uses a vendored `libsecp256k1`, the separate G=
+uix `libsecp256k1` is actually only used by `electrum` and related projects=
+ and (2) the interface `bitcoin-core` uses may be different from the interf=
+ace we use, it would require review before we would be able to assure that =
+the interfaces they use are exactly the same; this would be mitigated by ru=
+nning the full test suite as it also tests consensus-criticality.)
+Is there an easy way to ensure that any `libsecp256k1` that gets fed into t=
+he `c-lightning` build as an `inputs` is of a specific `git` commit?
+
+> And yes remove externals, I think that you should use a
+> snippet in the origin field instead of a phase for that.
+
+Hmm do you mean something like:
+
+ (origin
+ ; whatever...
+ (snippet
+ '(begin
+ (delete-file-recursively "external/gheap")
+ (delete-file-recursively "external/jsmn")
+ (delete-file-recursively "external/libbacktrace")
+ (delete-file-recursively "external/libsodium")
+ (delete-file-recursively "external/libwally-core"))))
+
+?
+
+> > Incidentally, we also install some Python modules.
+> > How do I "properly" export the Python modules within Guix?
+>
+> I will ask someone else here but you might have to mix the python-
+> build-system in.
+
+How do you mix in a build system?
+Would `python-pyqt` be a good example of such "mix in"?
+
+Regards,
+ZmnSCPxj
+
+
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+Good morning Leo,
+
+> On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 03:42 +0000, ZmnSCPxj wrote:
+>
+> > I understand.
+> > This will require a largish amount of work I think.
+> > Would this technique be acceptable?
+> >
+> > - `add-before 'configure 'unvendor-externals`
+> > - `rm -rf` the vendored externals.
+> > - `ln -s` the needed `.h` and `.la`/`.a`/`.so` files from the
+> > `inputs` to the expected paths within the `external/` directory=
+.
+> >
+> >
+> > ?
+>
+> Maybe simply add an option like --with-system-libbacktrace etc. in the
+> build system?
+
+That would not be simple I think, but let me see what can be done.
+For one, it would be fairly difficult to test it outside of a patched Guix,=
+ as the packages are not usually available in most distros (which is why we=
+ ship the source build with them); e.g. we do not know how to actually find=
+ the "system" libbacktrace as no existing system I know of actually ships t=
+he libbacktrace we use (Debian ships a libbacktrace for android development=
+, and is not the same package as what we use).
+Of the external packages we use, only libsodium is available on Debian (and=
+ older Debian/Ubuntu, as mentioned, have an older version that does not hav=
+e a functionality we require, which is why it is included in our source bui=
+ld as well), so that is the only external we have that we can plausibly say=
+ "we can use the system version", because all the others are not available =
+on most systems.
+
+Also --- we would be somewhat wary of taking the "system" `libsecp256k1`, a=
+s this is very consensus-critical, and we know that our program works with =
+a very specific version, but cannot assure this to be true if the "system" =
+`libsecp256k1` is not the exact version.
+(Note that we cannot take the `libsecp256k1` from `bitcoin-core` because (1=
+) the `bitcoin-core` package uses a vendored `libsecp256k1`, the separate G=
+uix `libsecp256k1` is actually only used by `electrum` and related projects=
+ and (2) the interface `bitcoin-core` uses may be different from the interf=
+ace we use, it would require review before we would be able to assure that =
+the interfaces they use are exactly the same; this would be mitigated by ru=
+nning the full test suite as it also tests consensus-criticality.)
+Is there an easy way to ensure that any `libsecp256k1` that gets fed into t=
+he `c-lightning` build as an `inputs` is of a specific `git` commit?
+
+> And yes remove externals, I think that you should use a
+> snippet in the origin field instead of a phase for that.
+
+Hmm do you mean something like:
+
+ (origin
+ ; whatever...
+ (snippet
+ '(begin
+ (delete-file-recursively "external/gheap")
+ (delete-file-recursively "external/jsmn")
+ (delete-file-recursively "external/libbacktrace")
+ (delete-file-recursively "external/libsodium")
+ (delete-file-recursively "external/libwally-core"))))
+
+?
+
+> > Incidentally, we also install some Python modules.
+> > How do I "properly" export the Python modules within Guix?
+>
+> I will ask someone else here but you might have to mix the python-
+> build-system in.
+
+How do you mix in a build system?
+Would `python-pyqt` be a good example of such "mix in"?
+
+Regards,
+ZmnSCPxj
+
+
+
+
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+On Thu, 2021-03-18 at 16:54 +0000, ZmnSCPxj wrote:
+> That would not be simple I think, but let me see what can be done.
+> For one, it would be fairly difficult to test it outside of a patched
+> Guix, as the packages are not usually available in most distros
+> (which is why we ship the source build with them); e.g. we do not
+> know how to actually find the "system" libbacktrace as no existing
+> system I know of actually ships the libbacktrace we use (Debian ships
+> a libbacktrace for android development, and is not the same package
+> as what we use).
+> Of the external packages we use, only libsodium is available on
+> Debian (and older Debian/Ubuntu, as mentioned, have an older version
+> that does not have a functionality we require, which is why it is
+> included in our source build as well), so that is the only external
+> we have that we can plausibly say "we can use the system version",
+> because all the others are not available on most systems.
+
+We can package every of those in GNU Guix, there's not as much
+bureaucracy as Debian when it comes to inclusion, as long as Free
+Software and freedom-non-controversial. The "system" thing is just so
+handy for us build-system wise we can just provide it as an input and
+it will find things automatically, I don't say that "system" lookup
+should imply to take any available library in general, in the context
+of GNU Guix we can give it a particular version and stick to it, unlike
+Debian's who can't have or with great difficulty, multiple versions of
+the same library installed.
+
+> Also --- we would be somewhat wary of taking the "system"
+> `libsecp256k1`, as this is very consensus-critical, and we know that
+> our program works with a very specific version, but cannot assure
+> this to be true if the "system" `libsecp256k1` is not the exact
+> version.
+> (Note that we cannot take the `libsecp256k1` from `bitcoin-core`
+> because (1) the `bitcoin-core` package uses a vendored
+> `libsecp256k1`, the separate Guix `libsecp256k1` is actually only
+> used by `electrum` and related projects and (2) the interface
+> `bitcoin-core` uses may be different from the interface we use, it
+> would require review before we would be able to assure that the
+> interfaces they use are exactly the same; this would be mitigated by
+> running the full test suite as it also tests consensus-criticality.)
+> Is there an easy way to ensure that any `libsecp256k1` that gets fed
+> into the `c-lightning` build as an `inputs` is of a specific `git`
+> commit?
+
+Yes we can package yet another variant like Bitcoin Core at a specific
+commit for c-lightning.
+
+> Hmm do you mean something like:
+>=20
+> (origin
+> ; whatever...
+> (snippet
+> '(begin
+> (delete-file-recursively "external/gheap")
+> (delete-file-recursively "external/jsmn")
+> (delete-file-recursively "external/libbacktrace")
+> (delete-file-recursively "external/libsodium")
+> (delete-file-recursively "external/libwally-core"))))
+>=20
+> ?
+
+Yes!
+
+> How do you mix in a build system?
+> Would `python-pyqt` be a good example of such "mix in"?
+
+Maybe? I'm no expert here.
+
+> Regards,
+> ZmnSCPxj
+
+FYI, I'm not as available for GNU Guix as I'd like, I am looking at the
+Python deps, just it will take me some time to actually do it (not at
+home now). I see python-mako is already packaged, python-wallycore I am
+packaging it, python-mrkd also looking.
+
+Also if we want to provide the Python bindings (?) to c-lightning we
+also have the option of creating a separate package based on the same
+sources but with different build-system (like python-build-system), and
+also it can have c-lightning as an input.=20
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+On Thu, 2021-03-18 at 16:54 +0000, ZmnSCPxj wrote:
+> That would not be simple I think, but let me see what can be done.
+> For one, it would be fairly difficult to test it outside of a patched
+> Guix, as the packages are not usually available in most distros
+> (which is why we ship the source build with them); e.g. we do not
+> know how to actually find the "system" libbacktrace as no existing
+> system I know of actually ships the libbacktrace we use (Debian ships
+> a libbacktrace for android development, and is not the same package
+> as what we use).
+> Of the external packages we use, only libsodium is available on
+> Debian (and older Debian/Ubuntu, as mentioned, have an older version
+> that does not have a functionality we require, which is why it is
+> included in our source build as well), so that is the only external
+> we have that we can plausibly say "we can use the system version",
+> because all the others are not available on most systems.
+
+We can package every of those in GNU Guix, there's not as much
+bureaucracy as Debian when it comes to inclusion, as long as Free
+Software and freedom-non-controversial. The "system" thing is just so
+handy for us build-system wise we can just provide it as an input and
+it will find things automatically, I don't say that "system" lookup
+should imply to take any available library in general, in the context
+of GNU Guix we can give it a particular version and stick to it, unlike
+Debian's who can't have or with great difficulty, multiple versions of
+the same library installed.
+
+> Also --- we would be somewhat wary of taking the "system"
+> `libsecp256k1`, as this is very consensus-critical, and we know that
+> our program works with a very specific version, but cannot assure
+> this to be true if the "system" `libsecp256k1` is not the exact
+> version.
+> (Note that we cannot take the `libsecp256k1` from `bitcoin-core`
+> because (1) the `bitcoin-core` package uses a vendored
+> `libsecp256k1`, the separate Guix `libsecp256k1` is actually only
+> used by `electrum` and related projects and (2) the interface
+> `bitcoin-core` uses may be different from the interface we use, it
+> would require review before we would be able to assure that the
+> interfaces they use are exactly the same; this would be mitigated by
+> running the full test suite as it also tests consensus-criticality.)
+> Is there an easy way to ensure that any `libsecp256k1` that gets fed
+> into the `c-lightning` build as an `inputs` is of a specific `git`
+> commit?
+
+Yes we can package yet another variant like Bitcoin Core at a specific
+commit for c-lightning.
+
+> Hmm do you mean something like:
+>=20
+> (origin
+> ; whatever...
+> (snippet
+> '(begin
+> (delete-file-recursively "external/gheap")
+> (delete-file-recursively "external/jsmn")
+> (delete-file-recursively "external/libbacktrace")
+> (delete-file-recursively "external/libsodium")
+> (delete-file-recursively "external/libwally-core"))))
+>=20
+> ?
+
+Yes!
+
+> How do you mix in a build system?
+> Would `python-pyqt` be a good example of such "mix in"?
+
+Maybe? I'm no expert here.
+
+> Regards,
+> ZmnSCPxj
+
+FYI, I'm not as available for GNU Guix as I'd like, I am looking at the
+Python deps, just it will take me some time to actually do it (not at
+home now). I see python-mako is already packaged, python-wallycore I am
+packaging it, python-mrkd also looking.
+
+Also if we want to provide the Python bindings (?) to c-lightning we
+also have the option of creating a separate package based on the same
+sources but with different build-system (like python-build-system), and
+also it can have c-lightning as an input.=20
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+Good morning Leo,
+
+> On Thu, 2021-03-18 at 16:54 +0000, ZmnSCPxj wrote:
+>
+> > That would not be simple I think, but let me see what can be done.
+> > For one, it would be fairly difficult to test it outside of a patched
+> > Guix, as the packages are not usually available in most distros
+> > (which is why we ship the source build with them); e.g. we do not
+> > know how to actually find the "system" libbacktrace as no existing
+> > system I know of actually ships the libbacktrace we use (Debian ships
+> > a libbacktrace for android development, and is not the same package
+> > as what we use).
+> > Of the external packages we use, only libsodium is available on
+> > Debian (and older Debian/Ubuntu, as mentioned, have an older version
+> > that does not have a functionality we require, which is why it is
+> > included in our source build as well), so that is the only external
+> > we have that we can plausibly say "we can use the system version",
+> > because all the others are not available on most systems.
+>
+> We can package every of those in GNU Guix, there's not as much
+> bureaucracy as Debian when it comes to inclusion, as long as Free
+> Software and freedom-non-controversial. The "system" thing is just so
+> handy for us build-system wise we can just provide it as an input and
+> it will find things automatically, I don't say that "system" lookup
+> should imply to take any available library in general, in the context
+> of GNU Guix we can give it a particular version and stick to it, unlike
+> Debian's who can't have or with great difficulty, multiple versions of
+> the same library installed.
+
+Okay.
+
+It is somewhat unclear to me however how to discover where the library is l=
+ocated.
+As far as I understand how autotools does it, it looks at some standard loc=
+ations on `/`, but I am uncertain if that is how it actually works.
+
+For example if `libwally-core` is separately packaged, obviously it would i=
+nstall into a `/gnu/store/*` via a `--prefix` override.
+And if the dependent package were using autotools, it is somehow able to ma=
+gically find where the `lib*.a` file is.
+However, C-Lightning does not actually use autotools (its build system pred=
+ated my participation, I offered to port to autotools but this was declined=
+), so I somehow need to emulate what autotools does in `--use-system-librar=
+ies` mode.
+
+I probably have to go hack some autotools package that trivially depends on=
+ `libwally-core` and see what the exact shell script is generated.
+
+> Also if we want to provide the Python bindings (?) to c-lightning we
+> also have the option of creating a separate package based on the same
+> sources but with different build-system (like python-build-system), and
+> also it can have c-lightning as an input.
+
+Note that AFAIK the Python bindings do not actually invoke any of the C-Lig=
+htning binaries, they just open the UNIX socket to the c-lightning daemon, =
+so I think there is no need for `c-lightning` itself as an input.
+
+Regards,
+ZmnSCPxj
+
+
+
+
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+Good morning Leo,
+
+> On Thu, 2021-03-18 at 16:54 +0000, ZmnSCPxj wrote:
+>
+> > That would not be simple I think, but let me see what can be done.
+> > For one, it would be fairly difficult to test it outside of a patched
+> > Guix, as the packages are not usually available in most distros
+> > (which is why we ship the source build with them); e.g. we do not
+> > know how to actually find the "system" libbacktrace as no existing
+> > system I know of actually ships the libbacktrace we use (Debian ships
+> > a libbacktrace for android development, and is not the same package
+> > as what we use).
+> > Of the external packages we use, only libsodium is available on
+> > Debian (and older Debian/Ubuntu, as mentioned, have an older version
+> > that does not have a functionality we require, which is why it is
+> > included in our source build as well), so that is the only external
+> > we have that we can plausibly say "we can use the system version",
+> > because all the others are not available on most systems.
+>
+> We can package every of those in GNU Guix, there's not as much
+> bureaucracy as Debian when it comes to inclusion, as long as Free
+> Software and freedom-non-controversial. The "system" thing is just so
+> handy for us build-system wise we can just provide it as an input and
+> it will find things automatically, I don't say that "system" lookup
+> should imply to take any available library in general, in the context
+> of GNU Guix we can give it a particular version and stick to it, unlike
+> Debian's who can't have or with great difficulty, multiple versions of
+> the same library installed.
+
+Okay.
+
+It is somewhat unclear to me however how to discover where the library is l=
+ocated.
+As far as I understand how autotools does it, it looks at some standard loc=
+ations on `/`, but I am uncertain if that is how it actually works.
+
+For example if `libwally-core` is separately packaged, obviously it would i=
+nstall into a `/gnu/store/*` via a `--prefix` override.
+And if the dependent package were using autotools, it is somehow able to ma=
+gically find where the `lib*.a` file is.
+However, C-Lightning does not actually use autotools (its build system pred=
+ated my participation, I offered to port to autotools but this was declined=
+), so I somehow need to emulate what autotools does in `--use-system-librar=
+ies` mode.
+
+I probably have to go hack some autotools package that trivially depends on=
+ `libwally-core` and see what the exact shell script is generated.
+
+> Also if we want to provide the Python bindings (?) to c-lightning we
+> also have the option of creating a separate package based on the same
+> sources but with different build-system (like python-build-system), and
+> also it can have c-lightning as an input.
+
+Note that AFAIK the Python bindings do not actually invoke any of the C-Lig=
+htning binaries, they just open the UNIX socket to the c-lightning daemon, =
+so I think there is no need for `c-lightning` itself as an input.
+
+Regards,
+ZmnSCPxj
+
+
+
+
+
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+Hello!
+
+> Okay.
+>=20
+> It is somewhat unclear to me however how to discover where the
+> library is located.
+> As far as I understand how autotools does it, it looks at some
+> standard locations on `/`, but I am uncertain if that is how it
+> actually works.
+>=20
+> For example if `libwally-core` is separately packaged, obviously it
+> would install into a `/gnu/store/*` via a `--prefix` override.
+> And if the dependent package were using autotools, it is somehow able
+> to magically find where the `lib*.a` file is.
+> However, C-Lightning does not actually use autotools (its build
+> system predated my participation, I offered to port to autotools but
+> this was declined), so I somehow need to emulate what autotools does
+> in `--use-system-libraries` mode.
+>=20
+> I probably have to go hack some autotools package that trivially
+> depends on `libwally-core` and see what the exact shell script is
+> generated.
+
+pkg-config if your deps provide .pc files! Otherwise I am actually not
+sure of the lookup strategies.
+
+> Note that AFAIK the Python bindings do not actually invoke any of the
+> C-Lightning binaries, they just open the UNIX socket to the c-
+> lightning daemon, so I think there is no need for `c-lightning`
+> itself as an input.
+
+Alright!
+
+> Regards,
+> ZmnSCPxj
+
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+Hello!
+
+> Okay.
+>=20
+> It is somewhat unclear to me however how to discover where the
+> library is located.
+> As far as I understand how autotools does it, it looks at some
+> standard locations on `/`, but I am uncertain if that is how it
+> actually works.
+>=20
+> For example if `libwally-core` is separately packaged, obviously it
+> would install into a `/gnu/store/*` via a `--prefix` override.
+> And if the dependent package were using autotools, it is somehow able
+> to magically find where the `lib*.a` file is.
+> However, C-Lightning does not actually use autotools (its build
+> system predated my participation, I offered to port to autotools but
+> this was declined), so I somehow need to emulate what autotools does
+> in `--use-system-libraries` mode.
+>=20
+> I probably have to go hack some autotools package that trivially
+> depends on `libwally-core` and see what the exact shell script is
+> generated.
+
+pkg-config if your deps provide .pc files! Otherwise I am actually not
+sure of the lookup strategies.
+
+> Note that AFAIK the Python bindings do not actually invoke any of the
+> C-Lightning binaries, they just open the UNIX socket to the c-
+> lightning daemon, so I think there is no need for `c-lightning`
+> itself as an input.
+
+Alright!
+
+> Regards,
+> ZmnSCPxj
+
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+Just for your information, I am quite busy on a GNOME upgrade now, we
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